Wednesday, September 10, 2008

Square in Rubik's Cube

How many squares can you perceive in a Rubik's Cube and how many of them are visible ?

By perceive, I mean you can assume a square, if you can join four co-ordinates to form a square.

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16 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

42

September 11, 2008 10:53 AM  
Blogger mazza said...

84

September 11, 2008 11:16 AM  
Anonymous shawn said...

324 squares can be made and 84 of them are fully visible to us (asuming that a rubik's cube has a sigle layer of cubes composing it)

~shawn~

September 11, 2008 11:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

none

September 11, 2008 11:55 AM  
Anonymous Euclid's Brother said...

If I understand the question and assuming a generic 3x3x3 rubik's cube.. Then I say 216 perceived and 54 visible.

explation:
3x3x3=27 individual cubes percevied (1x1) times 6 sides each.
8 larger cubes perceived (2x2) times 6 sides each.
1 larger cube (3x3) times 6 sides.
All add up to 216.

Each side has 9 visible squares, 9*6 = 54.

September 11, 2008 3:05 PM  
Anonymous Hägar said...

Well, I might go with the 216. However, 9*6+4*6+1*6 = 84 would be the total "completely visible" squares (per maza).

I think the only completely hidden ones would be on the small middle cube - giving a total of 216-9 = 207 "visible" squares.

September 11, 2008 5:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well 9 squares per side and 6 sides would be 54 visible "small squares", but each group of 4 small squares make another larger square, and each 3x3 side makes a still larger square. Each of the six sides have four 4x4 squares and each of the six sides has 1 3x3 square so 54+24+6 = 84 visible.

September 12, 2008 12:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well 9 squares per side and 6 sides would be 54 visible "small squares", but each group of 4 small squares make another larger square, and each 3x3 side makes a still larger square. Each of the six sides have four 4x4 squares and each of the six sides has 1 3x3 square so 54+24+6 = 84 visible.

September 12, 2008 12:31 AM  
Anonymous Maggie said...

84 sqaures. Each of the six sides consists of 14 squares.

September 12, 2008 9:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Potter-
i would agree most with shawn. euclid's brother has miscalculated, as he forgot to count ALL possible squares, assuming there is a center cube making the total number of cubes 27. each of these has 6 squares, and each visible side has 14 squares. i dont know the exact number, but i would lean to the side of something like 324, what shawn said.

September 12, 2008 11:01 AM  
Anonymous Euclid's Brother said...

yep.. i agree.. 84.. i didn't think to count the larger visible squares before..

September 12, 2008 11:03 AM  
Anonymous Hägar said...

Actually, I don't think any of us have come close yet (even ignoring my "9-sided" inner cube slip above.) For starters, given the problems explicit definition of "a square" each "side" has at least 4 squares nobody has mentioned yet - the 4 with an area of 2 square units centered around the vertices of the small inner square. That alone gives 108 "squares" on the outside of the cube (which would be one interpretation of "visible".)

Those of us considering the inside have some more work to do too. Actually, that could be where Shawn's 324 number comes from; but that does not jive with the 84. Also, I think there are even more than 324 and less than 635376.

Any more thoughts?

September 13, 2008 3:48 PM  
Blogger owensrx said...

14 per side times 6 sides = 84

September 14, 2008 7:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

there are 84 visible squares:
(9*6)+(4*6)+6=84

there are 252 squares in the cube...

but i wonder, shawn?
how did you get 324?

September 15, 2008 12:03 PM  
Anonymous Hägar said...

Well... that is the first mention of 252. For those wondering Anon is assuming that ownensrx and others are correct in that there are 14 "squares" per side. The six outside surfaces (sides) then give 84. HOWEVER, if you consider there there are actually 18 surfaces if you include the interior of the cube (each consisting of 9 small squares and corresponding larger squares) you can get 18*14=252.

Shawns original insight was (possibly) that there were an additional 4 squares per side (as I hinted above) giving 18*18=324.

However, I now believe there are at least an additional 2 squares per surface giving a lower bound of 20*6=120 outside surface squares and 18*20=360 squares (inside and out).

Again, I believe that there are even more than that.

September 16, 2008 12:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

doing research on 9 sided hyper-hyper cube.looking at how it folds together---look at a go board and fold the 9 squares into a hyper-hyper cube-see why the center point is up-how many indices on the
cube----show me the math supporting your answer

July 11, 2009 8:01 PM  

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