Friday, September 11, 2009

On the rebound

A cubic block of metal of mass M is hanging from a long thread. You throw a perfectly elastic rubber ball of mass m at speed u, perpendicularly to one of the block's vertical faces. Immediately after the ball bounces off the block, what is the speed of the ball and the block?

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Blogger quantense said...

Hi Chris,
it's (M-m)u/(M+m) for ball and 2mu/(M+m) for block.

September 11, 2009 12:26 PM  
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September 11, 2009 12:28 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

Hi quantense, you got it right (of course). Did you use conservation of energy, or did you view the problem in the centre of momentum frame?

I must be getting old, it took me ages to work it out.

September 11, 2009 1:05 PM  
Blogger quantense said...

Chris, I've used standard method of energy-momentum conservation.
Mv-mu'=mu;
Mv^2+mu'^2=mu^2.
Rewrite
Mv=m(u+u');
Mv^2=m(u-u')(u+u').
Divide one by another, get v=u-u', substitute in the first eq. and so on.

September 11, 2009 1:22 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

Hi quantense. I'd subconsciously pre-supposed conservation of momentum. I've recently become mistrustful of CoE for these mechanics problems. Even though I said the ball was perfectly elastic, I can still hear it hitting the block in my imagination.

I just took a look at your profile - I can see why this problem is easy for you. How long have you been studying theoretical physics? Would you like some relativity or quantum mechanical problems?

September 11, 2009 3:10 PM  
Blogger quantense said...

Hi Chris, of course we can't perform such ball collision which is absolutely elastic. I very enjoy you know that sound of collision means loose of energy (from ball and block to sound).

Yes, I'm a theoretical physicist. Namely, I'm fifth year student of Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology. As you've noticed, this problem was really easy for me. But I like to visit this site and solve these problems, because I enjoy conversation and I can practise my english (which is not very good, as you may notice).

Of course, there are questions in quantum mechanics and general relativity, for which I don't know answers. They are very deep and fundamental and I like to think about them.

September 12, 2009 7:32 AM  
Blogger Chris said...

Hi quantense. I wasn't intending deep questions; only "off-beat" ones.

September 12, 2009 7:04 PM  
Blogger quantense said...

Okay, Chris, if so I'll be able to answer.

September 14, 2009 2:40 AM  

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