Monday, November 2, 2009

Sum Problem

In a group of 10 people, each one is asked to write sum of the ages of the other 9. The sums form the 9 element-set (82, 83, 84, 85, 87, 89, 90, 91, 92). Find the ages of the youngest and the oldest in the group and the ages of the two persons with the same age.

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9 Comments:

Anonymous Cry Wolf said...

If there are 10 people, shouldn't there be 10 elements?

November 2, 2009 11:58 AM  
Blogger Ragknot said...

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November 2, 2009 12:59 PM  
Blogger Ragknot said...

This one was pretty difficult.
Evidently, CWolf didn't see that two kids are the same age so there are nine unique sums.

Kids ages are: 5,6,7,7,8,10,12,13,14,15

I'll let someone else figure out the oldest, youngest and which two are both 7.

November 2, 2009 1:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, I can name them.

George is the oldest, 15
and Henry is the youngest, 5

And the twins, Harry and Larry, are both 7.

November 2, 2009 2:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With the provided sums the difference in age are set and one is a known duplicate
Express age of each as difference between youngest
x+0,x+1,x+2,x+3,x+5,x+7,x+8,x+9,x+10,x+c
where x+c represents the duplicate
and c must = 0,1,2,3,5,7,8,9 or 10

Using the youngest sum of 92 we see
92=9x+45+c or x=(47-c)/9

Most people stop telling ages in fractions after they reach 4, so
if we are stuck using integer values for x, only 2 fits for c, leaving x=5
for the set of 5,6,7,7,8,10,12,13,14,15
ANSWER:
youngest 5, oldest 15, two persons with same age 7

If, however, x may be non integer values then we can arbitrarily choose c from the set 0,1,2,3,5,7,8,9 or 10
and solve for x using x=(47-c)/9
e.g. for c =4 x=40/9 leaving the set
(4+4/9,5+4/9,6+4/9,7+4/9,9+4/9,
11+4/9,11+4/9,12+4/9,13+4/9,14+4/9)
ANSWER:
youngest,oldest,shared age: it depends on which is the duplicate sum


Cam

November 2, 2009 3:15 PM  
Blogger Ragknot said...

Very good Cam, I enjoyed your reasoning.

November 2, 2009 4:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks Ragknot

Note: There is a typo in my example for fractional ages. c=7 in the example, not 4. 4 is not a valid selection for c.

Cam

November 2, 2009 7:16 PM  
Blogger Ragknot said...

How did I do it?

See...
http://ragknot.blogspot.com/

November 2, 2009 11:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the ages are 5 6 7 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 and 15

November 6, 2009 8:23 AM  

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