Tuesday, November 17, 2009

Wise Men

A king wanted to kick out all the wise men in his land but there was an old law he could not disobey which said there should always be

"Seven blind of both eyes:
Ten blind of one eye:
Five that see with both eyes:
Nine that see with one eye."

So how many wise men did he keep?

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35 Comments:

Blogger pramsay13 said...

I think he would have really struggled as he would have 10 men who are blind in one eye lined up. Then he would say but we're only allowed 9 that can see out of one eye.
To get round the problem he would need to gouge out the good eye of one of the men who are blind in one eye.
He would then collect 22 men in total (5 that see in both eyes, 7 that are blind in both eyes, and 10 who are blind in one eye - 1 of them not being able to use his other eye)
Then he would fulfil all the criteria.

November 17, 2009 2:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the answer is 12

November 17, 2009 4:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nowhere does it actually say that the wise men are the ones being described by the laws, so as long as there are civilians that meet this criteria, he could kick out all the wise men.

Probably not the answer you were going for, but it is one!

November 17, 2009 5:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it also says he wanted to get rid of the wise MEN, but then the law refers to people as ONES. It would stand to reason then that he could have kicked out all the wise men and met the blind law requirements with women.

November 17, 2009 6:58 AM  
Blogger Miguel Tato said...

I would say 19...
10 blind of both eyes and 9 that see with both eyes.

November 17, 2009 7:04 AM  
Anonymous HSpring said...

16

7 blind in both eyes
3 or 4 blind in one eye
5 or 6 that see with both eyes

7 completely blind and 3 blind in one eye complete the first two qualifications.
5 that see with both eyes complete the third qualification and part of the 4th. You would then need to add one to either the one eyed or both eyed people to complete the 4th qualification of 9 people.

November 17, 2009 9:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Assume staement is re: wise men

Number each statement (topline is *1, bottomis *4)

*1) 7 with 0 eyes
*3) 5 with 2 eyes

*5) = *1+*2) 1 eyes >= 10-7
*5) = *1+*2) 1 eyes >=3

*6) = *4+*3) 1 eyes >= 9-5
*6) = *4+*3) 1 eyes >= 4

*7) = *5+*6) 1 eyes >=4

so from *1, *3, *7
7 with 0 eyes
5 with 2 eyes,
4 with one eye

For 16 wise men

ANSWER:

16


Cam

November 17, 2009 12:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

testing

November 17, 2009 12:55 PM  
Anonymous HSpring said...

I still stick by my answer of 16 which Cam confirmed. But I got to thinking. The question does not technically say that these requirements refer to wise men. They are simply inferred by the question itself. So I suppose the answer could be 0 if the blind, half-blind and not blind requirements could be fulfilled by people other than wise men.

November 17, 2009 2:05 PM  
Anonymous HSpring said...

And now I see that others already considered my last option. Sorry, I will be quiet now!

November 17, 2009 2:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My answer is 17

November 17, 2009 8:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7 of them are blind and 5 of them can see in both eyes so thats 12, add that to the ten that are blind in one eye (disregard the 9 that see with one eye, that rule was covered by this one) and you get 22 would you not?

November 17, 2009 8:33 PM  
Blogger Ragknot said...

Seven blind of both eyes:
Ten blind of one eye:
Five that see with both eyes:
Nine that see with one eye.

1 .Five that can see with both eyes.

2. Seven blind in both eyes.

3. Ten blind of one eye (seven of these are also in group 2)

4. Nine that can see with one eye (five are in group 1, the other four are also in group 3)

That makes 5 + 7 + 10 -7 + 9 - 5 - 4 = 15

November 17, 2009 10:16 PM  
Blogger Ragknot said...

I am not putting to much faith in my answer. But after a little thought, "Blind in one eye, does not say blind in ONLY one eye, so every one blind in two eyes is also blind in one eye".

Also group 3 and group 4 are almost the same.

Some people with answer less than 15 must have seen additional ovelaps that envade me at this time.

November 17, 2009 11:23 PM  
Anonymous HSpring said...

I like what you did Ragknot, but you may want to reconsider #4.
In #3 you take away seven blind in both eye, leaving only three blind in one eye. The three plus the five that can see with both eyes only makes eight able to see with at least one eye. This means you would have to add an additional person with vision in at least one eye to complete the requirement of nine.
This makes the answer 16.

November 18, 2009 7:49 AM  
Blogger Ragknot said...

Thanks Hspring, I saw the answers of 16, I thought I might have overlooked some details.

November 18, 2009 4:20 PM  
Blogger Ragknot said...

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November 18, 2009 4:53 PM  
Blogger Ragknot said...

Hspring?

Is this right now?

http://ragknot.blogspot.com

November 18, 2009 4:56 PM  
Anonymous Karl Sharman said...

The criteria for "wise men" has yet to be considered.

Male - Definitely.
Wise - IQ in the top centile????

Once you get rid of some, you are left with the next band automatically in the top centile. The King would eventually have to throw almost everyone out of the country as even the idiots would eventually become the "wise men" of the land.
Leaving 16 people and a blind/half blind king, or not.

November 19, 2009 8:26 AM  
Anonymous Karl Sharman said...

Oops.... and a lot of women.

November 20, 2009 1:58 AM  
Anonymous Zaux said...

The confusion arises from having 2 categories: sighted and blind. For instance, convert the requirements to 1 category ... I chose sighted.

Converted requirements:

7 sighted 0 eyes
10 sighted 1 eye
5 sighted 2 eyes
9 sighted 1 eye

The 2nd and 4th requirements are identical ... by meeting the requirements of the 2nd we automatically meet those of the
4th.

Therefore, we need:

1st requirement:
Sighted in 0 eyes ------------> 7

3rd requirement:
Sighted in 2 eyes ------------> 5

2nd requirement:
(also meets 4th)
Sighted in 1 eye...requirement
3 gives 5 which are sighted in
at least 1 eye ... thus we need
5 more ----------------------> 5

Total Wise Men needed --------> 17

November 20, 2009 7:16 AM  
Anonymous HSpring said...

Clever Zaux, but there is one small flaw in your calculation. Choosing only sighted or blind to perform the calculation is what causes line 2 to seem to cover line 4. In reality line two can overlap lines 1 and 4, while line four can overlap lines 2 and 3.

The answer is 16. That is, of course, if these rules even apply to wisemen.....

November 20, 2009 1:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Common sence tells me three of the wise there must be.
all that were blind will eventually see with the arrival of three.

November 20, 2009 6:22 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

I agree with 16. 7 fully blind, 5 fully sighted and 4 half-blind. That obviously assumes that "at least" rules are used. If "exactly" is used, then the answer is 31.

November 21, 2009 8:30 AM  
Blogger GRAPHOLOGIST Mohit Thukral said...

the answer is 15 wise men..

Mohit

November 22, 2009 4:59 AM  
Anonymous Tanner said...

I think the answer is 13!

November 25, 2009 4:43 AM  
Blogger Alexander said...

I think the answer is 21 but i may be wrong

November 25, 2009 5:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

none

November 25, 2009 10:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Must Keep:
7 blind 2eyes
5 can see 2eyes
10 blind 1 eye, with include the 9 can see 1 eye

7+5+10=
The king kicked out all but 22 from the kingdom that will always remain

November 25, 2009 10:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Answer is 16

7 completly blind
5 that are not blind
4 that can see with 1 eye

November 26, 2009 3:04 AM  
Anonymous Stephane Vachon said...

lol since when do u need eyes to be wise?

November 30, 2009 10:13 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

Stephane, the question deals with wise men with two, one and no (working) eyes.

December 5, 2009 6:39 AM  
Anonymous Steelers fan said...

Wise men
W EYES men

December 7, 2009 10:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My answer is 10 because the king only needed 10 people to cover his max requirement.

1. 7 blind 2 eyes
2. 10 blind 1 eye
3. 5 sighted 2 eyes
4. 9 sighted 1 eye

-Take 10 wisemen and ask 7 to close their eyes = Req.1 7 blind in both eyes

-Now ask all 10 to close only 1 eye = Req.2 10 blind in 1 eye

-Now ask 5 to close their eyes while the other 5 open their eyes = Req.3 5 sighted with 2 eyes

-Lastly, ask 9 wisemen to close only 1 eye = Req.4 9 sighted with 1 eye

My answer is 10.

December 7, 2009 1:45 PM  
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April 15, 2010 9:59 AM  

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