Sunday, January 31, 2010

A Double Century

When will the beginning of a century fall on a Sunday? (Note to pedants: for this question, I define the centuries as beginning with the year ending in 00, not 01.)



To help you in your quest…



There are no agreed-upon leap year rules with timescales longer than 400 years, so what we have is one fixed pattern that repeats itself exactly every 400 years. No, I'm not telling you what the pattern is.... look it up on wikipedia at your peril!



Now keep in mind that a fair amount of tinkering with the calendar occurs now and again. Our current (Modern Gregorian) calendar was instituted on Friday, 15 October 1582, and took a couple hundred years to be generally adopted. Prior to this, the year 1100 had started on a Sunday, but timekeeping was so generally screwed up back then that when the Gregorian system was adopted, a bunch of days had to be removed to get the dates to synch up correctly with the seasons. (In the U.S., the missing days were September 3 through 13, 1752.)



Next question…There is already talk (premature in my opinion) that to get the current calendar to remain accurate, we'll need to eliminate one extra leap day every 4,000 years. Bearing this in mind, and the extra leap day is eliminated, when will the beginning of a Century then fall on a Sunday?

- Karl Sharman

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Blogger Ragknot said...

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January 31, 2010 2:33 PM  
Blogger Ragknot said...

I hate the way your comments get reformatted.


No Sundays

A repeating pattern seems to skip Sundays


# of ...............................
Days .......Dates...................
...................................
36525 Saturday, January 01, 2000
36524 Friday, January 01, 2100
36524 Wednesday, January 01, 2200
36524 Monday, January 01, 2300
36525 Saturday, January 01, 2400
36524 Friday, January 01, 2500
36524 Wednesday, January 01, 2600
36524 Monday, January 01, 2700
36525 Saturday, January 01, 2800
36524 Friday, January 01, 2900
36524 Wednesday, January 01, 3000
36524 Monday, January 01, 3100
36525 Saturday, January 01, 3200
36524 Friday, January 01, 3300
36524 Wednesday, January 01, 3400
36524 Monday, January 01, 3500
36525 Saturday, January 01, 3600
36524 Friday, January 01, 3700
36524 Wednesday, January 01, 3800
36524 Monday, January 01, 3900
36525 Saturday, January 01, 4000
36524 Friday, January 01, 4100
36524 Wednesday, January 01, 4200
36524 Monday, January 01, 4300
36525 Saturday, January 01, 4400
36524 Friday, January 01, 4500
36524 Wednesday, January 01, 4600
36524 Monday, January 01, 4700
36525 Saturday, January 01, 4800
36524 Friday, January 01, 4900
36524 Wednesday, January 01, 5000
36524 Monday, January 01, 5100
36525 Saturday, January 01, 5200
36524 Friday, January 01, 5300
36524 Wednesday, January 01, 5400
36524 Monday, January 01, 5500
36525 Saturday, January 01, 5600

January 31, 2010 2:51 PM  
Anonymous Zaux said...

Jan. 1, 4300

January 31, 2010 3:29 PM  
Blogger Zaux said...

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January 31, 2010 3:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my date assumes that a leap year will be eliminatd every 4000 years as is being discussed

January 31, 2010 3:36 PM  
Anonymous Zaux said...

my anonymous comment concernng leap year

January 31, 2010 3:43 PM  
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January 31, 2010 4:04 PM  
Blogger Zaux said...

Hi Ragnot ...

you can get around the reformatting by putting positioning "-" between words so they will maintain a position.

January 31, 2010 4:06 PM  
Anonymous Cherry Lovr said...

The year will come on a Sunday when it feels like it!!!!
DUHH!!!!!!!!!!

January 31, 2010 4:14 PM  
Blogger Zaux said...

"duh" ... such an intelligent comment

January 31, 2010 4:18 PM  
Blogger Ragknot said...

On formattting

My table was supposed to be the date
plus the number of days.

Date + days = next date + number of days = next date....

Date..........days
Date..........days
but because the date is of varying length the table was almost unreadable. I could have entered
a lot of dashes or periods, but I decided to just put the number of days before the date. That worked out better, but then realized the logic was bad because the number of days was not between the correct dates. The number of days should be down one line.

I think I need to review how tables in html are written. I used to know 10 years ago.

January 31, 2010 6:38 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

Cherry, please crawl back into your cave.

January 31, 2010 7:40 PM  
Blogger Ragknot said...

HTML in Google Posts.

I read that in March Google is changing formats for our post, ( I assume it is for comments also).

Now it is using FTP for our posts, and Google says FTP is not efficient.
A chance is coming.

Maybe the change will be to use XML .

January 31, 2010 8:16 PM  
Anonymous Karl Sharman said...

Ragknot - correct, no Sundays in the current system. Nor Thursdays or Tuesdays.

Zaux - Jan. 1, 4300 correct.

Cherry Lovr - Shows what you don't know. Nyah Nyah Nyah. That should be about your level, or a level you should aspire to.

January 31, 2010 11:48 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

Karl. Thank you. That's got to be about the most excellent bit of useless information that I've come across for a long time. It's even more useless than knowing there are more words in English for snow than in the Eskimo vocabularly, or that the Eskimos use the base 20 counting system.

February 1, 2010 4:32 AM  
Anonymous Karl Sharman said...

And the ancient Mesopotamians used base 5, 12 and 60, giving us the modern clockface.

Look at your right hand, and, using your thumb (Cherry Lovr will be excused from this task, as it hasn't developed opposable thumbs yet)count the 4 fingers segments. That gets you to 12. Use the left hand fingers to count of how many 12's. 5 Fingers of 12 = 60.

Thats my favourite piece of uselessness, although, I actually use it in practice!

Now.... where can I get a life?

February 1, 2010 8:25 AM  
Blogger Chris said...

I'll give you another. Clench your fists and place them together. Starting at the leftmost knuckle, you have January (31 days) then the gap is February (28 days), then the next knuckle is March (31 days), then the gap is April (30 days), next knuckle is May (31 days), gap June (30), knuckle July (31), next hand, first knuckle is August (31) etc.

What? isn't this a life! Now you mention it, I have been told.

February 1, 2010 9:52 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

That counting to 60 is good. And LOL for your Cherry comment, nicely put.

February 1, 2010 10:01 PM  

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